When asked about the band’s new aversion for long waits between records, Chancellor revealed that the 13 year wait between the two records wasn’t done on purpose: “It was never an intention of ours to do it that way! As time went on it just took longer and longer, and I think that stems from the pressure of trying to excel and trying to outdo yourself.”

He continued: “There’s always a danger of looking back and comparing ourselves to what we’ve done before, so there’s a certain amount of stuff we had to work through to get to the place where we could create something new and pure and of its own right. I think that’s the reason that the process started to take longer and longer.

Chancellor then explained that frustrations while working on the 2019 album led to the band taking breaks during its crafting process’: “The last time [working on ‘Fear Inoculum’], we were in and out of ideas a lot. We wrote a whole bunch of stuff, and then at one point we kind of threw it all away. We got a little frustrated a few times, and people needed to go off and do other things just to kind of get the breeze in their hair and get a fresh perspective. When you get stuck, sometimes you need to walk away.”

Elsewhere during his chat, Chancellor opened up about the band wanted to write more frequently now than in the past: “We’re just getting old, so it’s the pressure of time. Danny has just turned 63, so if we take 13 more years we’ll be touring when we’re over 70! Now there’s more of a necessity to get something cooking a little faster if we want to keep going strong”.